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"Foriegnmoviesddl Forum • View topic - umm..very... http://forums.foriegnmoviesddl.com/viewtopic.php... FAQ Search Members User Control Panel It is currently Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:01 am Logout [ ves ] 0 new messages Last visit was: Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:12 pm Board index » General » Off-Topic View unanswered posts | View active topics View new posts | View your posts All times are UTC + 1 hour umm..very amusing comment(s) on website Page 1 of 1 [ 4 posts ] Subscribe topic | Bookmark topic | Print view | E-mail friend Previous topic | Next topic Author Message Post subject: umm..very amusing comment(s) on website Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:21 pm ves http://www.foriegnmoviesddl.com/2009/06/kosovo-can-youimagine-2009-boris.html wrote Joined: Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:34 am Posts: 111 Location: Serbia Last post And who was persecuting the Albanian Kosovars in the first place? Just as they massacred 100,000 Bosnians, Serbia was trying another bout of ethnic cleansing and genocide. And now Serbia and its propagandists are screaming "It's so unfair" after THEY started all the wars that they lost and after THEY were responsible for starving people in Nazi-style concentration camps. And Serbia protects War Criminals, principally the main people responsible for the worst massacre in Europe since the 2nd world war. Poor Serbia. Not. 1 of 10 07/05/2009 01:02 AM Foriegnmoviesddl Forum • View topic - umm..very... http://forums.foriegnmoviesddl.com/viewtopic.php... please , don't talk like this, if you (obviously) don't know so many things. I thought that at least among movie lovers, there will be no situations like this. was wrong. photos I/we take: http://andrassyut.blogspot.com/ Foriegnmoviesddl Forum indian_blues Post subject: Re: umm..very amusing comment(s) on website Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:09 pm I never knew serbia had sone such things, Evil serbia You talkin' to me? Joined: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:54 am Posts: 930 Location: Neverland Foriegnmoviesddl Forum laduqesa Post subject: Re: umm..very amusing comment(s) on website Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:37 pm ves wrote http://www.foriegnmoviesddl.com/2009/06/kosovocan-you-imagine-2009-boris.html wrote Joined: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:08 pm Posts: 1090 2 of 10 07/05/2009 01:02 AM Foriegnmoviesddl Forum • View topic - umm..very... http://forums.foriegnmoviesddl.com/viewtopic.php... Location: London please , don't talk like this, if you (obviously) don't know so many things. I thought that at least among movie lovers, there will be no situations like this. was wrong. I should like to draw people's attention to the fact that the comment was made in response to a propaganda film posted to the site which attempts to exonerate Serbia for its part in the ethnic cleansing of Muslim and Croat Bosnians and for the massacre of 100,000 of them as well as glossing over the worst massacre of defenceless people in post-war Europe in Srebrenica. In that town, all of the men were rounded up, marched to pits in the ground and machine-gunned to be buried in them. "Men" included boys as young as 12 or 13. Only 3 people survived this terrible atrocity to tell the world what had happened and after the war, they led investigators to the scene of the crime where after extensive digging, the remains of the 1000s of men and boys of Srebrenica were found. Serbia, which wishes to join the EU and which alleges it is a democracy, protects the perpetrator of that dreadful horror - his name is Ratko Mladic - to this very day and will not hand him over for trial, as the international community requires. The film also, as a main theme, attempts to falsify history by painting well-armed, sovereign Serbia as a victim, instead of presenting the truth - that Serbia armed ruthless irregular groups of terrrorists in Kosovo to drive the Albanian-speaking majority out of Kosovo and supplied men and materiel to help them. Prior to this shamful episode, the Serbian authorities had frozen out Albanian speaking people from government jobs, had discouraged their education, had made investment in Albanian 3 of 10 07/05/2009 01:02 AM Foriegnmoviesddl Forum • View topic - umm..very... http://forums.foriegnmoviesddl.com/viewtopic.php... speaking majority areas dwindle to a trickle whilst investing heavily in Serbian speaking areas, had restricted their access to government services and had embarked on a project of land "reform". which saw Albanian speakers forced to cede their land to Serbian speakers. especially near the border. This happened whilst Serbia was busy elsewhere attempting to dominate Slovenia, a forward looking and prosperous part of the former Yugoslavia which managed to break away with less than 100 deaths inflicted by the Serbs and which is now part of the EU. And it happened whilst Serbia fought a war of aggression against ill-prepared Croatia, taking the Knin Krajina and Eastern Slavonia and ethnically cleansing the Croatian inhabitants. Serbia was also busy supporting the Serbian Bosnian forces in their war of genocide against Muslims and Croats in Bosnia Herzegovina. Who can forget the agony of liberal, multi-confessional and cosmopolitan Sarajevo, under siege by Serbian forces commanding the heights around the city and whose sport was to pick off people forced out of their homes to get provisions with sniper fire. 1000s died during this "game". More 1000s died from starvation. And 1000s more by indiscriminate shelling. And the Bosnian Serbs, aided by Serbia, set up concentration camps where the most grotesque tortures were carried out. Friends captured together (and this is documented) were told that one of them would have to bite off the genitals of the other on pain of death. If the 2 men refused to "play", they were both killed. If they agreed, at gunpoint, the horror of the situation cannot be described. Other inmates were simply starved. We can all remember the news stories of the arrival of journalists at the camp of Trnopolje, Bosnia, in 1992. Here are the photos:-- Code http://iconicphotos.wordpress.com/2009/05/26/trnopoljebosnia-1992/ 4 of 10 07/05/2009 01:02 AM Foriegnmoviesddl Forum • View topic - umm..very... http://forums.foriegnmoviesddl.com/viewtopic.php... The director of the propaganda pro-Serbian film, Boris Malagurski, is well known for his role in supporting Serbian expansionism even though he is a Canadian citizen. The film also attempts to portray the Serbs as victims despite their having attempted the genocide and ethnic cleansing of indigenous Kosovars in Kosovo - and who can forget the terrible reports and films of dead Kosovar grannies and children whose lives had been extinguished by Serbia-supplied forces and by the Serbian army itself? Now the Serbs, having launched several wars of aggression and ethnic cleansing wish to be seen as some sort of victims. They wonder why their actions so repulsed the world that they were bombed until they stopped their evil actions. They still protect war criminals wanted by international justice. They still teach their children that the independent countries that are their neighbours should cede parts of their land to Serbia. Large numbers of MPs of ultra-nationalist parties wishing to resume the wars are still elected to the Serbian parliament. I'm confident that decent thinking people will see history as it actually was and not as apologists for war crimes would wish to revise it. Now a word about the site and what I interpret the ethos of the site as. Ves said that he would not think to see such a post from "movie lovers". Does this mean that movie lovers should not have views? That they should not speak as they find? Does this mean that "movie lovers" should accept what they know to be incorrect without a murmur? This site does not support censorship. The propaganda film was published on the site, after all, and no one would dare to think that it should be suppresed. This site accepts all types of films,many of which are not to the taste of many of the users. And this is how it should be. We have freedom to do this. And with that freedom comes another freedom, that of being allowed to comment on the films posted. Of course, that freedom has its limits. In the Requests Zone, there is a request for a 5 of 10 07/05/2009 01:02 AM Foriegnmoviesddl Forum • View topic - umm..very... http://forums.foriegnmoviesddl.com/viewtopic.php... repulsive film which features scenes of children having sex with a porn star. My colleague Galmuchet locked the thread; I commented on it and then re-locked the thread. I didn't delete it as I wish for the users of the site to see what is totally unacceptable here. Propaganda films are acceptable. But it is the right of all of us to comment on those films to provide a balance. I often comment on films from the Zionist Entity which seek to minimise that "state's" record of ethnic cleansing and genocide. But I should never suppress such a film! I even move these films, with which I disagree so profoundly,over to the Blog. It is my absolute right, though, to comment on what I see as the wickedness of such films in their role in covering up the truth. Just like the Serbs, the Zionists present themselves as victims, despite their record of having attacked every single one of their neighbours, despite their record of ethnic cleansing, despite their possession of the most modern and extensive arsenal of weapons in the Middle East, despite their possession of 100s of nuclear bombs. Our colleague Ves is asking me (and by implication others) not to comment on the Balkans situation because I have views different from his. I fear that this supporter of Serbia has a lot to learn about democracy! And perhaps this is symptomatic of a country that still dreams of irredentism, of expansion and of war crimes. And symptomatic of a country that has learned no lessons from the past. And I enormously resent being told that I "obviously" know nothing. I know plenty and I'd like that comment withdrawn. It is incumbent on people on this site that we are, even in disagreement, polite to each other. The implication that someone of opposing views is ignorant is unacceptable. But this is perhaps yet another symptom of Serbian unfamiliarity with the norms of Western political behaviour and another reason why the EU has refused Serbia's application for entry (amongst other reasons). I have made a long post here. I felt it was important to do so, not only to redress the balance, but to show the real meaning and glory of a site like ours - that it attracts many people, all of whom 6 of 10 07/05/2009 01:02 AM Foriegnmoviesddl Forum • View topic - umm..very... http://forums.foriegnmoviesddl.com/viewtopic.php... can learn from each other and all of whom can debate and comment on whatever subject they wish, without fear or favour. And all of those people can post a film of whatevr viewpoint, as long as they are prepared for the viewpoints of others with whom they may not agree. We are not censors; we are facilitators and commentators. We are not the mute wool gatherers of film watchers, we are a community of intelligent people. We are a democracy in ourselves of free people. Long live foriegnmoviesddl.com! Foriegnmoviesddl Forum ves Post subject: Re: umm..very amusing comment(s) on website Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:52 pm Joined: Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:34 am Posts: 111 Location: Serbia Top after your long text, I don't know where to start, except to tell you that, dear "collegue", you are, ill-formed and ready to insult others. how can I even talk to you when you are so certain in many lies that you hear? first of all, please, don't base your knowledge upon media reports. get some historic books. maybe didn't get proper lessons in history - but you obviosly don't know anything about serbia, former yugoslavia, kosovo, or minorities in serbia. I am not here to defend my country, or people from there, I am well aware of all shit that happened, you know, just I hate when people like you start spreading bullshit, like Quote They still teach their children that the independent countries that are their neighbours should cede parts of their land to Serbia. or 7 of 10 07/05/2009 01:02 AM Foriegnmoviesddl Forum • View topic - umm..very... http://forums.foriegnmoviesddl.com/viewtopic.php... Quote Prior to this shamful episode, the Serbian authorities had frozen out Albanian speaking people from government jobs, had discouraged their education, had made investment in Albanian speaking majority areas dwindle to a trickle whilst investing heavily in Serbian speaking areas, had restricted their access to government services and had embarked on a project of land "reform". which saw Albanian speakers forced to cede their land to Serbian speakers. especially near the border. do you know, that, albanian minority had all privileges there? (well stil have) (as all other minorities) that serbs, yes serbs, built there schools, even university, also for albanian people, with classes in their own language? their own religious objects, I mean every fucking human right there? just will remind you that there was war and many serbian people were also killed, tortured etc by croatians and muslims. but no, that won't count. cause, they were serbs. jesus. and, btw Quote Our colleague Ves is asking me (and by implication others) not to comment on the Balkans situation because I have views different from his. I fear that this supporter of Serbia has a lot to learn about democracy! I am a girl. and since I didn't write it detailed, it is not the matter that you have different view, it is problem when you have false information that you base your view upon. and don't start on me with democracy. what kind of democracy it is when you write post like that?!? 8 of 10 07/05/2009 01:02 AM Foriegnmoviesddl Forum • View topic - umm..very... http://forums.foriegnmoviesddl.com/viewtopic.php... Quote I felt it was important to do so, not only to redress the balance, but to show the real meaning and glory of a site like ours - that it attracts many people, all of whom can learn from each other and all of whom can debate and comment on whatever subject they wish, without fear or favour. the thing is, friend, that you haven't learned anything. did you maybe ever talked to some historian, or some ordinary serbian person, anything? Quote And perhaps this is symptomatic of a country that still dreams of irredentism, of expansion and of war crimes. And symptomatic of a country that has learned no lessons from the past. And I enormously resent being told that I "obviously" know nothing. I know plenty and I'd like that comment withdrawn. It is incumbent on people on this site that we are, even in disagreement, polite to each other. The implication that someone of opposing views is ignorant is unacceptable. But this is perhaps yet another symptom of Serbian unfamiliarity with the norms of Western political behaviour and another reason why the EU has refused Serbia's application for entry (amongst other reasons). and now you identify me with my country and its acts. I was very polite in my first post but I had to speak after your post like these, where you basically insult me, but in good fashioned way so that it is not seen straight. 9 of 10 07/05/2009 01:02 AM Foriegnmoviesddl Forum • View topic - umm..very... http://forums.foriegnmoviesddl.com/viewtopic.php... I get to read tons of bullshit comments over the internet, and don't take a fuss about it, but when a mod on such a great site like this, does it, it really makes me, on the first place, VERY SAD, and then a little bit angry. but I guess it was really stupid of me to expect from somebody from western world to think with his own head and not what he is served - and see what is right to write on public internet sites. and please don't watch another "propaganda movie" made by Czech television company "stolen kosovo", it might hurt you in you safe world. photos I/we take: http://andrassyut.blogspot.com/ Display posts from previous: All posts Sort by Post time Ascending Go Page 1 of 1 [ 4 posts ] Board index » General » Off-Topic All times are UTC + 1 hour Users browsing this forum: ves and 0 guests [ Moderator Control Panel ] Quick-mod tools: Lock topic Go You can post new topics in this forum You can reply to topics in this forum You can edit your posts in this forum You can delete your posts in this forum You can post attachments in this forum Search for: Go Jump to: Off-Topic Go Foriegnmoviesddl Forum Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group 10 of 10 07/05/2009 01:02 AM ..."

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